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from farhad70s/Farhad (8,246) 
on March 23, 2006 9:44:06 PM CST
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I am not a big fan of this type of processing because it make me feel angry or something like that which I can't really describe it. I have to say you are the master of this kind of picture's manipulationg for sure and I look at your profile and they are good Art works but simply they don't work for me. I respect your work and I know this is not an easy process. Well done
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From jabomano/Ray (2,511)
on March 23, 2006 9:59:39 PM CST
Farhad Your input is greatly appreciated and I understand your view on the image. Ray
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from delcarry/Del (487)
on March 23, 2006 9:38:51 PM CST
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IMHO I really like what you have done with the photo. Your photoshop skills are great! I have seen your photos pop up at times and I just thought someone was just using very selective lighting techniques. I also have done a lot of PS'ing and retouching and I'm afraid that this photo manipulation has gone to the point where you have actually changed the person in terms of what they look like. I guess it all comes down to what this portait will be used for. If it will be used for a book cover or photo illustration to emphasize or dramatize a story or for an ad etc - no problem!. As a portrait of this girl, I would have to say no. Too far.
Thanks for submitting!
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From jabomano/Ray (2,511)
on March 23, 2006 9:58:58 PM CST
Del
I appreciate your views and thank you for the comment and vote. Ray
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from malaxos1/Dean (9,616)
on March 23, 2006 9:56:12 AM CST
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Ray, I have always liked the dragonizer effect and you do it as good as it gets. How about sharing how to do it? I have read some online tutorials and have downloaded the plugin, but I cannot get anything even close to this...Dean
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From jabomano/Ray (2,511)
on March 23, 2006 7:05:20 PM CST
Dean: Thanks for the input. This was not done with a draganizer but is a manipulation in layers of curves, exposure, rendering and more and brushing back in what is desired. Ray
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from skiper/Jose (1,184)
on March 23, 2006 5:19:45 AM CST
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Hello Ray, congratulations on your work. Its inovative, fascinating and beautifull. What tools do you use. How long does it take to process one photo?
Critique??? there is nothing to suggest, it's just great.
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From jabomano/Ray (2,511)
on March 23, 2006 7:09:33 PM CST
Jose: Thanks for commenting and voting. No tools other than PSCS2 and no action. Manipulation of exposure, rendering, a large curve adjustment and brushing back in what's desired to start. Every image requires slightly different adjustments in the process. No one image is the same. Ray
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from remco007/Remco (5,641)
on March 23, 2006 12:10:47 AM CST
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Fascinating to see the comparison of the two given the suite of portraits that you have shared with us Ray. I cant really add much more than what the other critiquers have already said except that it show how the intensity of the eyes has changed dramatically. It is only a sample photograph, but I find the processed one too harsh, too intense probably because of those eyes. It is only one person's opinion and for only a sample but for me, the processing has gone too far, or at least, could be selectively applied as the gentleness of the original has been lost imho and the hair, with its intensity, competes with her face. So my thumbs vote is just two for this (and of course, aimed at the processed one).
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From jabomano/Ray (2,511)
on March 23, 2006 7:12:03 PM CST
Remco: Thanks for the in-depth critique and the vote. You're right about this particular sample image as I randomly chose it from about 8 or so I have finished and all a little different. Ray Ray
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from taophoto/Tom (460)
on March 22, 2006 11:46:41 PM CST
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I like them both, but prefer first one, the lighting is fine to me, it's little soft but very intimate, 2nd one looked striking but surreal.
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from donald/Donald (18,370)
on March 22, 2006 11:38:21 PM CST
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I've seen this girl posted here before and remember thinking what a Strange looking portrait, Beautiful young landy, but strange effect, Not strange as in Bad, but very interesting interms of making you wonder how you got the effect/quality, or if it was somehow right off the camera, Your editing technique is flawless IMO, because I know nothing about editing, with the exception of sharpening, color saturation, lightening *dodging* and darkening *Buring*.
I think your processing is much better than the Original. But this picture isn't one of your best of her or of the one I've seen before. Mainly because the Processed one on the right there is something about her hair that has really made her face look square.
It's nice that you showed the before and After, but I'm going to ask WHAT ALL did you do to it to give it this interesting and eye catching effect? :).
I love her eyes.
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From jabomano/Ray (2,511)
on March 23, 2006 7:17:02 PM CST
Donald: Thanks for the in-depth critique and a bit of an insight into how it was done can be read in a couple of the posts above. Ray
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from airdrum/Andy (4,175)
on March 22, 2006 11:19:13 PM CST
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Thanks for this great comparison. I am surprised how under exposed the initial shot is. Although the PP is heavy, the initial pic is still good in terms of lighting and expression. It all starts with a decent shot i guess.
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From jabomano/Ray (2,511)
on March 23, 2006 7:18:34 PM CST
Andy: Thanks for the critique and vote. The adjustments were made in Raw as this is the format I shoot in. No JPEG. Ray
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From petrip/Petri (3,135)
on March 23, 2006 11:32:00 AM CST
Man that looks really scary!!!
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From stuarthill/Stuart (2,379)
on March 23, 2006 1:08:11 PM CST
sorry to say but you have made the girl look ugly ,a more selective proccesing of the eyes and lips but keep the softness of the skin tones of the face for me ,this is a young girl keep her that way
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From jabomano/Ray (2,511)
on March 23, 2006 7:20:19 PM CST
Stuart: I appreciate your view on the image and I understand this opinion completely. Ray
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